Curse

Monk Gsb · Sep 11, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

It works under the same principle as HFFF. I think it worked like this:

1. Bring a hero with UA and lots of run/survival skills.
2. Go to the explorable area you want to run.
3. Kill yourself. Have the hero cast UA.
4. Put your camera on the hero and run them close to the portal at the end of the area where you want to be.
5. Switch the camera back to your dead body.
6. Cancel UA. You spawn at the hero.

It worked because heroes don't seem to trigger mobs like players do.

fixed

ohicineed12chars

Kerwyn Nasilan · Sep 11, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by Chuk Charcoales

Nope, otherwise they wouldn't have ruined our pve fun.

yes because being able to run anywhere you want w/o restraints is totally fair, because of course itsJust PvE

Joe L. · Sep 11, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

Because there is no point in bringing it any more. You get better heals with HB (due to faster casts) without the energy penalty, and u can use other rez skills. Rezzing was never really a problem in PvE, the problem was the range of rez. Now with its range similar to rebirth, resurrect, and rez chant; why bother bring it when u can get better heals with HB with no energy drain.

Exactly. Everyone knows all monks ever needed was elite rebirth......

theonetheonlybruce · Sep 11, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

RIP UA till another day when we may meet again

Sniper22 · Sep 11, 2008, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Um UA isn't dead.

OoU revert was okay I guess... seems like minions will suck in pvp like always, unless they're just soul reaping food...

I thought the update was coming tomorrow, maybe there is more tomorrow with more changes, cause there is barely any significant changes made, especially to elite skills.

HawkofStorms · Sep 11, 2008, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Good fix to Ghost running.

Also and EXCELLENT change to ele skills functionality. For those that don't get it, this is designed to cut down on the effectiveness of Me/E's running water magic ele builds. Mesmers should stick to mesmering (really, a.net always nerfs builds when a class outpreforms a function that is supposed to be given to another class, ie, ele's should always out ele mesmers, ritualists should always out ritualize necros). I'm shocked how many people just don't "get it" are complaining about how this is meaningless. If you don't know about the meta or the current game balance, don't complain about skill changes that don't affect you.

By the way... nice a day early. Very unexpected.

Edit: sloth hunters was also a needed change, though I did like playing with the old version.

Kusandaa · Sep 11, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Well, for UA... it was overpowered. Fun, but OP'ed. I totally understand the change (even though deep inside I find it sucks, but oh well). Glad OoU's back to normal though, I actively used it before the nerf. It was one of the few decent MM elites and I'm happy they decided to change it.

Cobalt · Sep 11, 2008, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

UA is not bad. Increased healing is better than Healer's Boon, but without the casting speed boost. What makes it even nicer, is it removes the need to carry a rez. In fact, the rez is 100% health and energy, and moves the target to safety. Not sure why people view this as bad, but I still find is an amazing elite, and use it more than HB now.

However like Healers Boon and Ursan it is no longer an "elite" skill, it is nothing but rebirth in a different package. So at the very least these piss all over their consumer base when ever they feel it like jackasses should have removed its "elite" status.

Neo Nugget · Sep 11, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Man, Ghost running sounds like it was fun, I dunno how I missed out on that one.

Was nice getting my keys today though. Had a blast /zrank spiking Kun Shao with everyone else in GToB

HawkofStorms · Sep 11, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

However like Healers Boon and Ursan it is no longer an "elite" skill, it is nothing but rebirth in a different package. So at the very least these piss all over their consumer base when ever they feel it like jackasses should have removed its "elite" status.

It doesn't have your skills recharging, and restore you at full energy.

If people in PvE started to use reses like they do in PvP (ie, res mid fight instead of either waiting for a wipe or killing all the monsters, which ever comes first), UA is still useful, granted, not so much on primary monk healers who should stick to healing.

Chuk Charcoales · Sep 11, 2008, 01:50 AM // 01:50

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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

yes because being able to run anywhere you want w/o restraints is totally fair, because of course itsJust PvE

Saying what I said in a sarcastic tone doesn't support your point, try again.

MercenaryKnight · Sep 11, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

I am waiting for the pve Unyielding Aura change. They absolutely have to change it, because a rebirth isn't even capable of being a worthwhile elite. Atleast compass range would have made sense because it is still elite after all, but now that it's just casting range they need to up the healing and forget the res portion all together.

Second-Strike · Sep 11, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

This update is a little disappointing.
I liked the previous change to OoU to allow minion masters to not be dependant on a large supply of corpses and allow interesting builds to be made around that.

I wish UA wasn't added to the graveyard as well. It was overpowered before but the changes are too drastic. It was a fun skill that made pugs more forgiving. I think these type skills are needed to get more players involved so they can begin to learn.

The changes to ele skills were a plus though as my ele seems to have taken the backseat for pvp.
I just hope there are more updates to come tomorrow, on the day they were actually scheduled for.

DarkGanni · Sep 11, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

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Originally Posted by Athrun Feya

Not sure. Somewhere in radar range

I LoL'ed in RL

Radar range would have been the "best" fix.

One more thing: I remember ANet saying they have nothing against farmers(don't ask me where I read that it's been long time ago). :O rly? Stealth hammer bash in CoF (not that it really affects much).

And now.......

Shortened the distance that Justicar Thommis will chase fleeing characters in the Slaver's Exile dungeon.

I'm not bitching about VS farm, could care less about it, lived without before will continue to do the same.

The update of today is beyond ridiculous (final word: noticed the 4 ele spells > copy paste. com?)

- Ganni

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

It doesn't have your skills recharging, and restore you at full energy.

If people in PvE started to use reses like they do in PvP (ie, res mid fight instead of either waiting for a wipe or killing all the monsters, which ever comes first), UA is still useful, granted, not so much on primary monk healers who should stick to healing.

I beg to differ, wasting an elite spot for a Full hp and full energy ress in casting range is a waste there are better elites, only benefit I can see from UA is for Prophecies account holders only.

Konig Des Todes · Sep 11, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

I wonder how long until the UA QQ threads come out wanting it back, or at least to radar distance. Now I gotta change my monk's build >.> Time to put in another crappy rez somewhere....

Edit: Actually, since it's still a 0 casting time rez, it's the best resurrect skill out there (like rebirth without energy or recharge issues). Would like a radar distance though...

Calli · Sep 11, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Shame about UA, though abmittedly it's previous functionality was absurd.

Shame about the new tonic also.

Oh well. Nothing surprising.

Dark Paladin X · Sep 11, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by Sniper22

Um UA isn't dead.

He's right though, UA is still the fastest casting resurrection. However, if you going to do stuff in HM or recover from a wipe, rezzing with UA requires more tactical approaching, since the range is now equal to Rebirth now. Although I was planning to use UA for my monk character, but since resurrection is now limited, I might as well go with [Holy Haste], [Healer's Boon], and [Renew Life]. Although heroes are REALLY stupid on using this combination, bringing UA for your hero is still decent though, since the stop maintaining it immediately after someone gets killed and trust me, they are REALLY good at using it.

StormDragonZ · Sep 11, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

Glowing Gaze: functionality changed to: "Deals 5..50 fire damage. You gain 5 Energy plus 1 Energy for every 2 ranks of Energy Storage if target foe is Burning."

Mind Blast: recharge time reduced to 2 seconds.

Shock Arrow: functionality changed to: "Rapid projectile: deals 5..50 lightning damage. You gain 5 Energy plus 1 Energy for every 2 ranks of Energy Storage if you hit an attacking foe. 25% armor penetration."

I am very, very happy about all of these. My Elementalist builds will now be much better than before! Nonetheless, I must have missed the reason why everyone is so bummed out over something.

MrBeefy · Sep 11, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

there's another new build as of 10pm... what's new in it?

Chuk Charcoales · Sep 11, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Nothing exciting.